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Warburton Expat's avatar

In between "the state should take care of them" and "they should be abandoned" there's another possibility, which you almost thought of but then dismissed with,

"Their kids don’t have the time (their own babies) or resources to help them as much."

It's not a matter of time, because worldwide you get vast extended families who are very very busy, but who look after their elderly nonetheless. This is cultural: Anglo (or Anglicised) families are much more socially atomised. Smaller families, geographic mobility, and an attitude of "I'm an individual, fuck you" are common.

Often the Anglo Boomer parent engaged in neglect, if you were lucky it was benign neglect. It was common to move around a lot, so the child or children could never make lasting friends, never had uncles and aunties and cousins around, and the children got kicked out at 18 to make their own way. So when the Anglo Boomer became elderly and lonely, there wasn't much sympathy.

You don't really see this as much with other ethnicities, except where they've assimilated into Anglo life (common enough, since they'll be migrants and will have left their own larger families behind in the homeland). You'll notice those who teach their children their homeland's language are more likely to be looking after their parents. Those who are exclusively english, less so.

Obviously with the elderly there can be a level of health problems which require professional help, even aged care. But short of that - an elderly person with adult children should never face homelessness and starvation. You'll see this in Italian, Chinese, Indian, or in NZ in Maori homes - they'll always squeeze you in somehow. Of course, you'll then have to watch over the grandchildren and do some cooking and cleaning, it won't be a free lunch.

Point is, culture's relevant here.

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Kryptogal (Kate, if you like)'s avatar

Not a Boomer, I'm an Xennial, but I'm here to defend them. Honestly Millennials and Zoomers who hate on Boomers display levels of selfishness and straight up malice that far exceeds anything they complain about in Boomers, who they are seemingly mad at for not dying fast enough and giving them their money.

First of all, Boomers work a lot harder than younger generations, that's clear in any workplace. They're like 70 and still the first ones in in the morning and last ones at night. They had to marry the first girl they ever slept with, because there was no Plan B and there was a shotgun held by dad. Their own parents universally hit them and barely ever told them they loved them, if ever, and they were all absolutely kicked out and expected to join the military or get a job at 18. And if they didn't, they could actually be drafted and sent to go get shot in a war whether they wanted to or not. The Boomers were WAY nicer to their kids and grandkids than their own parents ever were to them, and those kids just turn around and deride and bitch about the parents who gave them more than they ever got themselves. And give me a break with the idea that any generation has control over national policy...people voted and half of them lost, just like always. In the 80s they all actually believed the trickle down, privatize everything BS that every major economist was peddling, and hadn't yet seen how it would work out to carve out the middle class and make the rich richer. And just like always, the top decile got theirs and screwed over everyone else...you don't blame 50M old people for that unless you're just an a-hole. The young tearing apart the elderly and being maliciously covetous of their assets because they don't want to wait is just grotesque. No wonder no one wants kids anymore, when this is how they treat their own parents. The vast majority of Boomers had parents who 1. Never paid for or assisted with their college (because most Boomers didn't go to college), 2. Never passed on a dime in inheritance, 3. Rarely if ever said "I love you" and sure as hell didn't dote on them or watch their sports and activities or try to raise their self-esteem, and 4. Regularly whipped them and whupped their asses...and yet most Boomers would never have even considered cutting off or talking badly about their own parents the way young people do today. Bunch of spoiled ass jerks (I mean the anti-Boomer young people, not the Boomers). If they can afford a cruise, why the hell shouldn't they go on one, after working their ass off their whole lives? I honestly cannot comprehend people that are mad at old people going on a cruise. And most of them couldn't afford it anyway.

All that said, if you think the stats regarding impoverished Boomers are scary, just wait til Gen X gets elderly. They are absolutely screwed, none of them have pensions (except teachers and military and a few state workers), and they have even less saved than the Boomers. Gen X is going to have massive amounts of poverty in their old age.

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