Most died without passing on their genes. This could be because men's work was more deadly (hunting/warring), because disease killed male children more, because dominant men/wealthy men/warlords kept the women for themselves and cast out boys because they were competition, like mormon fundamentalists do. Men oppress men.
2. Women weren't procreating voluntarily. They weren't choosing. Women were chattle. Even in our own culture, women couldn't vote/own property/have a job/have a bank account. They were chosen for marriage, as prostitutes, as kept women, and raped, resulting in children. 80% of women procreated, but most weren't in control of their bodies. They didn't have a choice. It wasn't until 1993 that marital rape was a crime nationwide in the US. The first no fault divorce was legalized in CA in 1969, but that was really for celebrities. Women were property for most of our history.
3. Because men could obtain women by achieving something or by force, there were no expectations of positive male behavior. Men could behave inconsiderately, selfishly, violently, etc. Men oppress women.
5. Women are earning more degrees and earning equal money, except in the highest social classes. Women have a choice for the first time. The liberation of women is the largest liberation of people in the history of the world. Women have achieved a level of equality for the first time and women are evaluating whether they want husbands, children, to pursue a resource expensive career, etc.
If you were suddenly set free from everything you saw your mother and grandmother have to deal with, would you clambor to go back to being less free?
Here is what AI had to say:
"The statement "the liberation of women is the largest liberation of a people in history" is a widely held opinion within feminist circles, arguing that due to the sheer number of women affected and the pervasive nature of gender inequality across societies, the fight for women's rights represents the most significant liberation movement historically.
Key points supporting this view:
Scale of impact:
Women make up roughly half of the global population, meaning their liberation would impact a massive number of individuals across all cultures and societies.
Systemic oppression:
Women have historically faced widespread discrimination and subjugation in various aspects of life, including legal rights, economic opportunities, and social status.
Transformative potential:
Achieving gender equality could fundamentally reshape social structures and power dynamics, impacting not just women but society as a whole. "
Bottom line, men need to up their game, become whole, become considerate, collaborative, peaceful, respectful, and embrace equality. Not sure how. But that is the pro-social answer.
Hey Ted,
We are in a tranformative period in history.
1. Historically, only 33% to 40% of men procreated.
https://www.reddit.com/r/JordanPeterson/comments/7xvqai/once_you_understand_that_throughout_history_only/
https://psmag.com/environment/17-to-1-reproductive-success/
Most died without passing on their genes. This could be because men's work was more deadly (hunting/warring), because disease killed male children more, because dominant men/wealthy men/warlords kept the women for themselves and cast out boys because they were competition, like mormon fundamentalists do. Men oppress men.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_boys_(Mormon_fundamentalism)
2. Women weren't procreating voluntarily. They weren't choosing. Women were chattle. Even in our own culture, women couldn't vote/own property/have a job/have a bank account. They were chosen for marriage, as prostitutes, as kept women, and raped, resulting in children. 80% of women procreated, but most weren't in control of their bodies. They didn't have a choice. It wasn't until 1993 that marital rape was a crime nationwide in the US. The first no fault divorce was legalized in CA in 1969, but that was really for celebrities. Women were property for most of our history.
3. Because men could obtain women by achieving something or by force, there were no expectations of positive male behavior. Men could behave inconsiderately, selfishly, violently, etc. Men oppress women.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I9ZpMXaiy6U - Watch this hilarious Bill Burr piece on terrifying dads.
4. Reagan destroyed the middle class with trickle down economics. Wealth inequality is at its highest point in 75 years.
https://americancompass.org/economic-inequality-guide/?gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQiAouG5BhDBARIsAOc08RQ1LYkqyqSW6_45_n4_CsbnSdUSdTiBKv9AZUuAUm9Xi2Dx_-oxoWYaAuvIEALw_wcB
5. Women are earning more degrees and earning equal money, except in the highest social classes. Women have a choice for the first time. The liberation of women is the largest liberation of people in the history of the world. Women have achieved a level of equality for the first time and women are evaluating whether they want husbands, children, to pursue a resource expensive career, etc.
If you were suddenly set free from everything you saw your mother and grandmother have to deal with, would you clambor to go back to being less free?
Here is what AI had to say:
"The statement "the liberation of women is the largest liberation of a people in history" is a widely held opinion within feminist circles, arguing that due to the sheer number of women affected and the pervasive nature of gender inequality across societies, the fight for women's rights represents the most significant liberation movement historically.
Key points supporting this view:
Scale of impact:
Women make up roughly half of the global population, meaning their liberation would impact a massive number of individuals across all cultures and societies.
Systemic oppression:
Women have historically faced widespread discrimination and subjugation in various aspects of life, including legal rights, economic opportunities, and social status.
Transformative potential:
Achieving gender equality could fundamentally reshape social structures and power dynamics, impacting not just women but society as a whole. "
Bottom line, men need to up their game, become whole, become considerate, collaborative, peaceful, respectful, and embrace equality. Not sure how. But that is the pro-social answer.